Citizens Against Citizens Against Humor Stand Up for South Park Creators

IT is all about fear and the conquest of the world. 1400 years... 1400

[...] potesse disegnare Maometto. Lo ha fatto producendo un finto manifesto promosso da un gruppo fake, Citizens Against Citizens Against Humor, che alcuni hanno preso per una vera organizzazione. Ha disegnato diversi oggetti (una tazzina di [...]

RE: 'Everybody Deny the Holocaust Day': A Meta-spectacle of Human misery

This has become a spectacle now. Well, it was already a spectacle with EBDMD, but now it's been escalated to a Meta-spectacle!

I thought we got past that after the twentieth-century—one of the most violent centuries, at least in recent history. It's ALL wrong; so, you know that most of the world knows this, right?

While I do see the backlash connection with 'Everybody Draw Mohammed Day,' etc. One offense against humanity (seems to) deserves another.

An eye-for-an-eye: I get it. This is where the reactionaries step in and (rightly or wrongly) fight back. It's a fringe thing on the internet, which will bring-on more rioting and violence.

Maybe, after all is said and done, it will all awaken humanity at last; and, we'll all have learned a valuable lesson and furthered ‘truth’ in the face of fundamentalist extremists. I doubt it.

On the one hand, hand, I saw nothing about EBDMD that furthered truth or humanity --just extremism. Most of us, around the world, were horrified and humiliated for every Muslim and non-Muslim alike who were forced to witness that ignorant event.

Well, except for the national bloggers, like Dan Savage, a leftist, fundamentalist extremist who managed to hijack a cartoon drawn by an apologetic cartoonist and fuel an international firestorm that created maelstrom and censorship, world-wide.

Now, with the proposed “Everybody Deny the Holocaust Day,’ I see nothing that will further the truth or humanity either—just a knee-jerk reaction to ignorance by right-wing fundamentalist extremists who want to prove what we already know: humans can be crazy and ignorant.

I have visited Dauchau, in Germany. As you enter the death camp there is a sign that reads: 'Arbeitet Machen Sie Frei!' ('Work Makes you free!')

And from there, you witness tourists at Dauchau taking photos of their families posed around the ‘gas showers’ and the ‘ovens,’ seemingly oblivious to the atrocities that occurred there.

How exactly does an event like ‘Everybody Deny the Holocaust Day’ equalize the ignorance of ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day?”

If I thought that this event would finally awaken humanity from denial; and, so oblivious to the past, I would fervently support it. If I thought that this event would promise respect for what is sacred, I would support it.

But I doubt it will even the score. It will only inflame fundamentalist extremists, both from the right and left, while the rest of us watch in horror.

Meanwhile, humanity will remain ignorant, because violence begets violence. Hasn’t the world shed enough tears already?

This is a Mega-spectacle of human misery!

Would God or Allah or Jesus Christ, or the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) see this as an act of wisdom, or as an act of the ego?

Although I am not a dogmatically religious person, I do recall what Jesus Christ said while being nailed to the cross: “Forgive them, father. They know not what they do!”

I say: ‘Live and let live.’ Literally, please!

This would be the greatest act of truth and humanity that any of us could perform.

“The Front Porch Talker”

@Rosemarie
how would you like it roesmarie if we made funny cartoon of jesus and mary ?huh? we dont coz jesus is one of our prophets in islam his name is hazrat essa and the bible u guys have it was supposed to be a muslim book but u arrogant people changed it because u think that no one is supperior then u guys .

Exercising the right to ridicule radical Islam is not only a free speech issue. It is also vital to national defense because building disdain and contempt for an enemy requires ridicule. In the Wall Street Journal recently Peggy Noonan made the excellent point that an important factor in British defeat of Nazi Germany in World War Two was their tenacity and determination - 'grit.' She failed to mention that British will to resist was based heavily in widespread popular contempt for Nazism and Nazis. That was partly based in worry about their expansionist foreign policy and revulsion against their cruelty, but these became evident only late in the game. From the beginning the British will to resist was based more in disdain and contempt for Nazis and their portrayal as laughable and absurd - their goose step marching, their stiff armed salutes and the like. The person of Hitler was mocked. We need to be free to ridicule ridiculous aspects of radical Islam in order to mobilize resistance to it.

Hey, if you are interested, you can submit cartoons to my site: http://everyonedrawmohammed.blogspot.com/

And Yusuf, you miss the point. We belive in freedom of speech so much that we will risk our lives for it. the terrorists just need to learn to get over it.

> You keep bringing up the first Amendment, but did you know it is Illegal to Deny the Holocaust, in the UK ?

First, while the UK's record on free speech leaves something to be desired, i highly doubt that its illegal to deny the holocaust, since england hosted the irving trial, where the occurance of the holocaust was put on trial. irving was allowed to not only deny the holocaust existed, but was allowed to present evidence and get a verdict on the question.

Second, the occurance of the holocaust is a fact. the holiness of Mohammed is an opinion, one which literally billions of people don't share. And ditto for the holiness--nay, even existance--of Jesus Christ.

Third, what the hell does the UK have to do with American cartoonists and the American first amendment?

> There is a difference between Criticizing someone and Insulting them.

Actually most insults are also criticisms, anyway. and insults are protected speech, at least in america.

What Comedy Central did was smart. Why would you want to invite a buncha morons to blow stuff up?

You keep bringing up the first Amendment, but did you know it is Illegal to Deny the Holocaust, in the UK ? There is a difference between Criticizing someone and Insulting them.

@Rosemarie
I sooo agree! Sometimes it seems like some Muslims (and a frightening large proportion of Muslims) have no humour at all when it comes to their religion, and I'm sure that that inhibits them from having fun, which is the main point in life. That, in itself, is sad, but what is even sadder is that they seem to try to impose this humourless view on life on everybody else, and with means which in our part of the world are unacceptable. It must be ok to disagree and to criticize without fearing for ones lives.

Both Christianity and Islam are frauds.

Where to send Mo drawings? There doesn't seem to be an official site, but try Hit & Run:

http://reason.com/blog/2010/04/23/first-annual-everybody-draw-mo

"If readers would like to show their solidarity, please email your Mohammad masterpieces to me here: mmoynihan at reason.com. The best ones will be published on Hit & Run, which, along with the concomitant death threat, is reward enough."

For inspiration, check out:

http://infidel2u.org/

They offer a free 500+ image photo mosaic poster of Muhammad. View and/or print it.

Where do we send our drawings of Mohamed?

The difference between the religion of Islam and Christianity is that when you tell a crude joke about anything Islam the powers to be on earth declare death to the individual making the joke. In Christianity there is prayer for them in order to help them see their evil ways and let G-d make the decision about punishment and not some human who acts like they are the go between G-d and man.

I say make fun of all people. Screw people that think they are above everyone else. They are no better than Jews, Christians, Scientologists, Mormons, Atheists (me) or any other group. I can't believe that any American would ever back down to some group that threatened to kill over what the founding fathers thought was so important to make it the FIRST AMENDMENT. If you forgot what it is here you go:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of SPEECH, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Bold was mine

I think it's way more offensive to be scared for ones live rather than mild depictions of Santa in a bear costume, who is mistaken for the Mohammed.

I think taking offense is all fine and good. But threatening people and actually killing them is not. People stand up against the wrong thing. There should have been mass protests against the fatwa, against the murder of Theo, and against the killing attempts against the Danish cartoonists.

Instead we deliberate if showing Mohammed as tea pot or as cherry is offensive.

I think the priorities are way out of line. If we cannot criticize we are not free to speak at all.

So yes, I very much support "Draw Mohammed" day and I hope that people dare to depict some truth. The poster is ultra-mild. This is how scared we are to offend and speak the truth.

I have a love/hate relationship with this show. I loved that they did that, but I sooooooooooo wanted them to take mohammed out of the bear suit. They've gone after every other religion to the max - I think every newpaper in the West should run cartoons of Mohammed on May 20. We could make it an inter-national holiday as far as I'm concerned. Maybe they wouldn't learn to be so radical if they could learn to laugh at themselves a little.